Saturday, April 29, 2017

Quite A Day


We did have some parking challenges this morning. There is a certain condition that happens a few times each ski season. Today was one of those days. Most of the other areas are closed. We get a bunch of snow. The skiing is fantastic. And a weekend rolls around. And way more people show up than we have parking for. People get stuck in traffic and then there is not a parking spot for everyone. That happened today. Interestingly, the same thing happened last year on the last Saturday of April.

Of course most people did get a parking spot and had a great day skiing. The Summit Stage ran some extra buses.  Not everyone was able to park at the ski area and some were quite upset. I received comments like, "you over market," "your parking sucks," "you are an idiot," etc. I am always bummed and sorry when we can't fit everyone in who wants to be here.

The Basin is a wonderful place and sometimes more people show up than we have capacity for. It is like showing up at great restaraunt to find an 1 1/2 hour wait for a table.

As always, I will stick to some very strong messages for busy days. Carpool. Ride the Summit Stage. Arrive Early OR Arrive Late. Plan Ahead. The Basin has a lot of great skiing. I want to see everyone enjoy the place. Unfortunately, not everyone can enjoy at once. We all tried to enjoy it at once this morning.



30 comments:

Anonymous said...

Same thing happened on Friday for a period. All parking was full by about 11am, and the Summit stage bus doesn't run on weekdays. Usually I have four or more, or arrive when lifts open, but it was an exception for me yesterday. On weekends, you can just park at the Keystone lot and take the Stage, which is great. But there is the rare Friday where there is just no place to park. Al, what about having the A-Basin bus go all the way to the Keystone lot on those days? It's only about 1 mile further than the last pick up on Hwy 6. Anyway, sorry about the people that were rude.....I'm not complaining at all, just thinking about solutions.

Jason Moore said...

Food for thought:

"Instead of packing more people into the resort, we are limiting lift ticket sales to 2,000 per day ensuring the lowest skier density of any major ski resort in North America. Your powder paradise is waiting just an hour from Salt Lake airport!" - Powder Mountain

I wouldn't be too surprised to see regulations put on lift ticket sales in an attempt to enforce a limit on the number of skiers allowed per acre.

Laurie Lawrence said...

We arrived at 9:05am at the Keystone parking lot to catch the Summit Stage. We were toward the front of a very long line. When the Bus pulled up after 10:00am the driver told us the road was closed and the buses were not running. The bus sat there for quite awhile and would not let passengers on. Many of us gave up and left. We drove 90 minutes from the Glenwood Springs area only to be turned away. Needless to say we were not at all happy.

Anonymous said...

The issue was the miscommunication with the summit stage and not running busses to keystone earlier. I figured we would park at keystone and just take a bus. Waited 45 minutes for a bus and when it showed up the driver said he couldn't go to abasin. That was frustrating. You guys were aware of the fact people would park at keystone and bus up. The summit stage was obviously unaware of the critical role they played in that system. Ended up just hiking up keystone but such is life.

Anonymous said...

If the place is this busy why not put money back into the mountain? I read your expansion plans which indicate you are putting in a fixed grip chair and walking terrain to save money.

Anonymous said...

We arrived early and enjoyed some excellent turns! As always skiing the Basin was "Legendary!" Sorry to those folks who got upset about parking and lines. Our puppy enjoyed an early morning session of fetch while waiting for the lifts to start turning-it was THE BEST

Anonymous said...

Leave earlier. You have to realize thousands of front range epic pass holders are coming up and going to try and be there by 8. Just come earlier.

Anonymous said...

Dreaming of a day when Abasin is free from the epic pass.
#thelegendreturns

Anonymous said...

Dreaming of a day when Abasin is free from the epic pass.
#thelegendreturns

David Sandoval said...

Yeah, we got there at 1 pm, parked at the lower lot, and had a blast, oh and we had am awesome night sleep. The tacos from the taco truck were awesome!

David said...

Instead of spending billions of dollars on another I70 toll lane, CDOT should run a affordable and functional bus service to the mountains. I would love to leave my car at home if it were possible.

John Dolan said...

Are the pics 3rd or 4th Alley?

Anonymous said...

John Dolan, there's more space there than the 6th Alley. Looks more like 13 Cornices or My Chute to me.

Anonymous said...

This attitude of "real A-basin skiers / boarders" is what's pisses me off about the area. Basin has awesome terrain and great snow, but "locals" feel that they own the mountain and any mentioning of vail is met with the level of anger I can't comprehend.

Anonymous said...

Debbie the gate keeper, stay strong. You're the best in the business.

Anonymous said...

You do AWSOME work Mr. H. Thank you. Last week was excellent! Although, I met several EPIC people on the lift...

Michael Heyman said...

The basin rules. Al you rule, but why expand into new terrain, making the basin even more attractive to more people, when you can't even accommodate the people you currently have? The beavers and steep gullies are "sidecountry" backcountry learning grounds for a lot of people. It sucks to expand there, especially when you can't even fit the people that currently come. #savethebeavers (I know it's too late.)

Anonymous said...

Yes, and these people offended you by mere fact they used an option included with their pass? What makes you better and belong there while they are mere visitors and should bow to your presence?

Ryan said...

Quite a few of us who choose not to buy Vail Resorts' passes are simply tired and over the crowds that the Epic Pass brings. I can't speak for others, but the reason I gave up buying the Epic Local, Summit Value, and even the Keystone A-Basin pass is because I want to support my "home" ski mountain of Arapahoe Basin in the purest way that I can, so I buy the Arapahoe Basin only pass. And some of us have been burned by Vail Resorts the company pretty badly.

Anyway, back to the point, we simply don't like the crowds that the Epic Pass brings. The long lift lines, parking troubles, and some of the attitudes that we see from people with Epic Passes contribute to this vibe. It isn't about "owning" Arapahoe Basin or feeling "entitled" to anything, it is simply wishing that it went back to the no-frills, cool attitude place that it was in years past, before all the craziness of the crowds that you see there these days. And the quickest way we see that happening is if Arapahoe Basin was no longer a part of the Epic Pass.

It is very unlikely to happen, especially given the extra revenue that Arapahoe Basin makes from Vail Resorts because of this business arrangement. but that is the sentiment of more than a few "locals".

I hope this helped in explaining some of the attitudes that you come across from some die-hard A-Basin folks. Cheers and enjoy the spring snow, which looks like it will continue until at least mid-May!

Anonymous said...

Whiny little bitches. Good Lord.......

Ski the basin said...

Complain some more people!! It's the last day of April. Just received 2' of snow. Get out and enjoy it!!! Prob the only time of the year you ski the basin and you complain. The basin will be open a couple more months. Try one of the 45+ days we have left!

Anonymous said...

Doesn't matter if it is folks with Epic passes or not. A Basin is the only resort open and has great conditions on a weekend, of course it is going to be crowded.

Common sense says get there early and plan for the crowds!!!!

Ed Kerkhover said...

I come from Illinois and will purchase a weekday pass next year just for A-Basin. I want to support the mountain I call home. Why would I want to ski Keystone or Breck when I never tire of A-Basin. The most genuine, friendly and considerate people ski here.

Anonymous said...

Hey Jason Moore. Looks like powder mountain is closed. Bet your parking situation can't compare to the only game in town!

Anonymous said...

Hey Jason Moore. Looks like powder mountain is closed. Bet your parking situation can't compare to the only game in town!

Unknown said...

Same thing happened to Eldora when they were on the Epic Pass. Full season of no parking on pow days. They dumped Vail after 1 season and got on the RMSP+. Now there's a steady supply of skiers, no angry people, and a great business arrangement because like Abasin, Eldora can stand on their own unique merits as a local ski mountain. I really hope Abasin drops Vail when their contract is up and either goes independent or joins a better group of ski passes like RMSP or MAX pass.

Unknown said...

We left from Grand Junction and would have arrived at A Bay around 10 am, had we not been turned back. No stress, no mess. We drove back down to Dillon, shopped in some of their second-hand stores,and got back to A Bay at noon. Figured they'd open lot spaces starting at noon and sure enough they did. A nice afternoon of skiing and life is good.

Anonymous said...

Al, you and the people that work there do a fantastic job. It is not your problem...it is a symptom of the EPIC pass... oh well.

Frank Klinger said...

John Dolan, my guess is West Turbo.

Hongziyang said...

@JasonMoore counter point, there were numerous times this season where pow-mow ran out of parking as well. So while I'm all for their limits to reduce crowds, it isn't a silver bullet for parking woes by any stretch.