Tuesday, May 26, 2015

Discussion - Pali and Zuma Closing

A few have suggested we close Zuma Lift and keep Pali Lift open. These two decisions are made independently. We are not sacrificing Pali Lift to keep Zuma Lift open.

Zuma Lift has a couple of great groomers still open. Most of the avalanche terrain there is closed. Lift ridership back there is still good. There is no rule saying we can only have a certain number of lifts open. Zuma being open has nothing to do with Pali being open or closed.

Pali is closed now. We are not expecting any notable freezes this week. Don't confuse cool, gray weather with good, cold freezing weather. Temperatures by the weekend are forecast to be in the fifties. While I know there are still a few people that would like to use the lift, we know from experience that ridership there drops significantly as we get to these late spring conditions. As the weather warms and Pali becomes less desirable to ski, fewer people ride the lift. There comes a time to let her go.

I know many of us don't want to see Pali close. The excitement and passion regarding this lift is way cool. It is certainly my favorite lift - anywhere. Its closure for the summer has nothing to do with Zuma Lift.

12 comments:

Jeffrey Dunham said...

Hi Al, re-open Pali for week end only and I for one will fly in from Cal.

Anonymous said...

So that weather means that Upper East Wall's days are numbered? Weekend, maybe?

Anonymous said...

Amazing to me how much the Basin does for skiing and people still cry, beg and whine. Weak.

Anonymous said...

Al,
I thought that Pali closes in May when the weather warms and there is a possibility of a wet slab avalanche. Not because of diminished ridership.

Alan Henceroth - COO and Vice President said...

Looking at the wet loose activity on the East Wall today, looking at the weather forecast, and looking at the calendar, I am not sure we will get too much more out of the Upper East Wall. It was a great season up there.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for keeping it open for so long! North Pole was skiing real good yesterday

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the update on the upper east wall. It was a fun season around there for sure.

Anonymous said...

Pali last Friday was incredible; conditions insane.... those memories will get me through to October. Thanks Ullr and ABasin ops.

tball said...


Al, can you help me understand why Exhibition, lower Standard and lower International are closed today?

I've been bitching about them being closed over here:
http://www.epicski.com/t/128588/2014-15-colorado-weather-discussion/3630#post_1886773

And, please know my complaining is out of love for A-basin :-) I know and appreciate that you take feedback into consideration, and want to help make A-basin better.... and I want to ski Exhibition, lower Standard and lower International tomorrow!!!!

Dave said...

anon 4:29, I'm with you. Seems like common sense to me. Far more intermediate skiers/riders than experts. Even the latter prefer good coverage. Regarding Pali terrain, increased risk of wet slab slides due to flowing water underneath pack + ever-decreasing coverage on double black steeps + diminished ridership = a total no-brainer to close it before the others. Also a no-brainer to keep Zuma open as long as possible to spread intermediate crowd between front & back. Plus there's a good mix of terrain back there for most everyone. Usually the line is much more manageable than Lenawee. It's not rocket science: Pali closes first, then Zuma. Al, I'm a bit surprised you needed to explain this, but thanks for quieting some of the irrational chatter.

Anonymous said...

Got first tracks down North Pole on Sunday, one of my best runs of the year. Thanks to the patrol for getting it open.

Alan Henceroth - COO and Vice President said...

Tball, thanks for looking me up today. I really appreciated the conversation. Take care. Al